The headline change is that the Monday to Saturday off peak service 250 goes from hourly with some 90 minute gaps to a standardised 90 minute frequency. Or viewed another way, the previous 11 round trips become 10. Peak journeys were also retimed. The driver behind this appears to be punctuality; from personal observations, the 250 did struggle to keep to the previous timetable so the old timetable was unsustainable. The July change increased journey times as well as layover time in both Grimsby and Hull. The route continues to require three vehicles.
As much as some change was necessary to restore punctuality, the reduced frequency is regrettable. As are some of the more minor details. Off peak at least, the 250 from Hull remains timed to fit in perfectly between the half hourly 350 over the shared section of route from Hull to Barton. From Barton (Ferriby Road) however the same is no longer true, with the 250 now around 7-8 minutes ahead of the 350. It should also be noted that the 250 now has longer running times than the 350 between Barton and Hull.
At an individual journey level, there is now a 0855 250 from Barton Market Place to Hull at the exact same time as the 0855 255 runs Monday to Friday. Returning from Hull, the previous last 1915 departure is now at 1945 - good news for 250 passengers wanting longer in Hull, but leads to very poor coordination between the service 350 departures at 1835 and 1950.
Hopefully Stagecoach maybe able to further tweak the timetable again in the future to mitigate some of these negatives.
Whilst on the subject of the 250, I'm starting to wonder if dedicated single deckers in a bespoke livery aren't the best idea? At times the 250 can be quiet and a single decker is all that is needed, but at other times - e.g. Saturday mornings into Hull and late afternoons from Hull - buses are full and standing, to the point that on one occasion earlier this year I was unable to board a Saturday 1555 from Hull (thankfully I was only going to Barton so there was a 350 15 minutes later). I'm starting to think that regularly scheduling double deckers on the busiest journeys (wind restrictions on the Humber Bridge permitting) would be the best solution. No extra mileage, but extra capacity when needed. Of course the other unknown is the future of the £2 fare cap, and if that goes, what impact it has on patronage; Grimsby to Hull is currently a defacto very cheap £4 return.
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Bigger Question is what happening on the other side of the Humber with changes in November. It looks like Fast Cat will be fully a Stagecoach Service, I can see the Sunday timetable being overhauled and no longer going to Ashby
If stagecoach don't take over the east yorkshire schedule it is going to leave some very big gaps in the service,especially on a Sunday.That 15.30 bus is already packed so if there isn't an 18.30 service even more people are going to be trying to get onto the 15.30 bus.l really hope they are going to take on the 'lost' services.lt would be great if they could put extra services on a Sunday,as there is already that big gap between 15.30 and 18.30.
Yes, the EY runs will be covered by Stagecoach Hull depot. As far as I'm aware, nothing has been confirmed about the Sunday extensions to Ashby being withdrawn, but it is questionable if it is required, aside from the first two services into town (not sure how popular these are). That said, it wouldn't necessarily improve the service with the same resources as it would be the same bus anyway, so no overall benefit by not going to Ashby...
With the number 6 now running on a Sunday, at the very least I can see the 15:30 Hull to Ashby 350 getting curtailed at Scunthorpe station in the near future. I can see the first 350 on a Sunday still starting from Ashby seeing as there's no 4 or 6 at around just before 8 that way.
Could really do with some bisp funding going its way
If Hull pickup the eyms journeys wouldn't that mean they then need Ashby knowledge?
I have heard strong confidence Stagecoach will taking over the East Yorkshire 350s but not absolutely 100% yet
Although I can’t find any mention on the Stagecoach website, Traveline is showing revised timetables for Stagecoach 350 from November 10th. (It. Is the third version listed).
On Sundays, the service is 2-hourly from Scunthorpe Bus Station between 0815 and 1815 (returning 85 mins later), while on M-S there are additional journeys in the former EY timings. However, for some reason, all M-S journeys are listed multiple times !
I have just looked at the traveline info,l wonder how accurate /reliable that info is,and why stagecoach haven't publicised it as the Sunday timetable does look quite different to the present timetable.
Stagecoach have now published details of the revised times from Sunday (with just six days notice) - see
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/11/2024-13:10:40:720
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